If I am inlaying pearl on the top I avoid CA with a passion. I have seen it yellow spruce over time. Good oldfashioned Elmers is what Martin uses and I figure what is good enough for them is good enough for me. I havn't had a problem since.
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| Author: | Dread1916 [ Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:25 pm ] |
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Hey gang...I'm in the midst of my 1st build and have dry fitted all my shell and purfling. What would be the best glue to use in this application??? I'm looking for type of glue and even a brand name (hopefully a glue that I can readily get from a good hardware store, but, I'll order if special glue is really needed)...My main concern is having the glue saturate the area around the rosette and discoloring the spruce. Please advise... Thanks so much... JP |
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| Author: | Andy Zimmerman [ Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:34 pm ] |
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I use thin superglue for both my shell inlay and rosette. The key to prevent the staining of the spruce is to cover the rosette and surrounding area with laquer or vinyl sealer first to prevent the superglue staining. Personally I have a can of vinyl sealer and it will probably last a lifetime. If you look at the Taylor videos, they do it the same way Andy |
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| Author: | Rod True [ Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:47 pm ] |
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Like Andy, I use thin CA for the rosette and bindings/purflings, you can just get "crazyglue" brand if you like. Be sure to seal the channels with shellac or vinyl sealer as Andy said and you shouldn't have a problem with discoloring the endgrain. If you don't want to use CA, titebond works well for both applications, you will have to route your rosette channel slightly bigger (don't know for sure, maybe 0.005-0.010") to allow for swelling when using titebond or any other AR glue. |
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| Author: | tippie53 [ Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:50 pm ] |
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If I am inlaying pearl on the top I avoid CA with a passion. I have seen it yellow spruce over time. Good oldfashioned Elmers is what Martin uses and I figure what is good enough for them is good enough for me. I havn't had a problem since.
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| Author: | Don Williams [ Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:58 am ] |
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Hey John, Have I ever told you I love that guitar? Man, that's some work....have you sold it yet? |
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| Author: | tippie53 [ Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:59 am ] |
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Thanks This is one of my personal guitars that I use to show clients for a commision. Dave Nichols taught me the art and I have been doing alot with it. I have 6 started right now. 3 BRW 1 maple 1 quilted ZOOTMANS stuff with wild bearclaw and eir. Gotta keep busy. john |
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| Author: | Red Ennis [ Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:09 am ] |
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That is one nice gee-tar. |
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| Author: | tippie53 [ Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:34 am ] |
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I must clearify that I will use epoxy or CA on fingerboards and rosewood but never on spruce. john Thanks again. The guitar took alot of pearl. |
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| Author: | peterm [ Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:57 am ] |
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When I inlay pearl on the top I first brush on a little KTM-9 (water based finish) so the CA does not run into the grain of the wood...after the shell is inlaid and the CA is fully dried I sand flush. For all other area CA seems to work fine for me! |
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| Author: | Dread1916 [ Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:00 am ] |
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Thanks for all the replys...after looking over the Cumpliano book and the feed back from the forum...I think that I will go with the Elmers (or tight bond's white glue if my wife used up all the elmers). CA is a great product, but, I too have seen it yellow wood over time back when I was building RC airplanes (some CA brands were better than others) This is my 1st guitar and since the back and sides came together well, I decided to rework the original rosette and use shell. The top I have was a Martin's defect purchase (there is a very small nick that needs to be repaired)...but the top came with a Red, White, Blue, and Black rosette (single ring). I hated the rosette and decided to remove it (which worked well) and replace it with shell. The only draw back is that I had to widen the channel a bit...and...well I am 0.005-0.007" oversized...so white glue would be best since it will help fill and also swell the wood. Any more tips are always welcomed... Thanks again, JP |
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